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Tim Keller on Suffering, Forgiveness, and the Future of the Church

Martin Luther once said, “Prayer, study, and suffering make a pastor.” Few things can better describe the life and ministry of Tim Keller. In this episode, Michael Horton is joined by Tim Keller to discuss how his cancer diagnosis has affected his spiritual practices, why forgiveness is essential in life and society, the church’s resilience amidst increasing secularization, and more.

Timothy Keller, photo by Frank Licorice, taken September 30, 2006. Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic {{CC BY-SA 2.0}}, resized by WHI.


  • Michael Horton is White Horse Inn’s founder and co-host. In addition to serving as a J. Gresham Machen Professor of Systematic Theology and Apologetics at Westminster Seminary California, he is a minister in the United Reformed Churches. He is the author of more than 30 books.
  • Timothy Keller was born and raised in Pennsylvania and educated at Bucknell University, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, and Westminster Theological Seminary. His first pastorate was in Hopewell, Virginia. In 1989 he started Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City with his wife, Kathy, and their three sons. Today, Redeemer has nearly six thousand regular Sunday attendees and has helped to start more than three hundred new churches around the world. He is the author of God’s Wisdom for Navigating Life, Hidden Christmas, and Making Sense of God, as well as The Meaning of MarriageThe Prodigal God, and The Reason for God, among others.

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